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		<title>Comment on Treasure Island by Catriona</title>
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		<dc:creator>Catriona</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 22:25:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, technically no one was able to access things like Treasure Island before the invention of the printing press. (That sarcastic remark brought to you by lack of coffee.)

There were advances to the process of printing that made reading materials far more available and far less expensive in the nineteenth century. And once the dependence on the (incredibly expensive) three-volume novel as a standard publishing type (a dependence fostered by circulating libraries, particularly Mudie&#039;s, which could then charge a fee for people to borrow each separate volume) was broken the very late nineteenth century, it paved the way for the new dominance of single-volume hardbacks and, of course, paperbacks.

There were paperback options prior to the late nineteenth century: the publisher I looked at for my thesis (John Dicks) republished the serials from his penny weekly periodicals as sixpenny paperbacks. He also published cheap reprints of the classics: I have his volume of Shakespeare (which, admittedly, cost a shilling)--which includes all the works considered canonical in the nineteenth century, including the poems--and his edition of Robert Burns&#039;s poems, which I believe sold for sixpence--which includes a long biography, all the poems, footnotes, and a number of letters to and from Burns.

So there were options. But what I&#039;m talking about, like Salmon, is really more about the working classes. If you&#039;re interested in that, I recommend Jonathan Rose&#039;s The Intellectual Life of the British Working Classes.

(Warning: generalisations approaching.)

The middle classes were always in a more fortunate position. The Victorian middle classes were culturally aspirational: they were distancing themselves from the working classes and reaching up to the aristocracy. Their children were literate before the push for universal literacy and education in the late nineteenth century: they would have been schooled at home or sent to school, where the children of the working classes were still largely relying on one day a week at Sunday school. They would also have been able to afford the frequently exorbitant circulating-library fees (instead of having to rely on working-men&#039;s clubs). And, of course, the expensive Victorian periodicals (the shilling monthlies, as opposed to the penny weeklies) in which the vast majority of Victorian novels were originally serialised were aimed at middle-class readers.

Victorian culture was extraordinarily literate: the number of periodicals they produced and the sheer density of content in those periodicals is rather staggering.

So, though the advances that made printing cheaper and broke the libraries&#039; stranglehold on the types of books produced would have benefited the middle classes, too, they already had advantages in terms of the reading available to them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, technically no one was able to access things like Treasure Island before the invention of the printing press. (That sarcastic remark brought to you by lack of coffee.)</p>
<p>There were advances to the process of printing that made reading materials far more available and far less expensive in the nineteenth century. And once the dependence on the (incredibly expensive) three-volume novel as a standard publishing type (a dependence fostered by circulating libraries, particularly Mudie&#8217;s, which could then charge a fee for people to borrow each separate volume) was broken the very late nineteenth century, it paved the way for the new dominance of single-volume hardbacks and, of course, paperbacks.</p>
<p>There were paperback options prior to the late nineteenth century: the publisher I looked at for my thesis (John Dicks) republished the serials from his penny weekly periodicals as sixpenny paperbacks. He also published cheap reprints of the classics: I have his volume of Shakespeare (which, admittedly, cost a shilling)&#8212;which includes all the works considered canonical in the nineteenth century, including the poems&#8212;and his edition of Robert Burns&#8217;s poems, which I believe sold for sixpence&#8212;which includes a long biography, all the poems, footnotes, and a number of letters to and from Burns.</p>
<p>So there were options. But what I&#8217;m talking about, like Salmon, is really more about the working classes. If you&#8217;re interested in that, I recommend Jonathan Rose&#8217;s The Intellectual Life of the British Working Classes.</p>
<p>(Warning: generalisations approaching.)</p>
<p>The middle classes were always in a more fortunate position. The Victorian middle classes were culturally aspirational: they were distancing themselves from the working classes and reaching up to the aristocracy. Their children were literate before the push for universal literacy and education in the late nineteenth century: they would have been schooled at home or sent to school, where the children of the working classes were still largely relying on one day a week at Sunday school. They would also have been able to afford the frequently exorbitant circulating-library fees (instead of having to rely on working-men&#8217;s clubs). And, of course, the expensive Victorian periodicals (the shilling monthlies, as opposed to the penny weeklies) in which the vast majority of Victorian novels were originally serialised were aimed at middle-class readers.</p>
<p>Victorian culture was extraordinarily literate: the number of periodicals they produced and the sheer density of content in those periodicals is rather staggering.</p>
<p>So, though the advances that made printing cheaper and broke the libraries&#8217; stranglehold on the types of books produced would have benefited the middle classes, too, they already had advantages in terms of the reading available to them.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Treasure Island by Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 03:37:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>T: Yeah but I can&#039;t believe how many people haven&#039;t read Neuromancer.

That&#039;s really interesting: the fact that the books were written for and about boys didn&#039;t stop girls from reading and imagining themselves doing fantastic things beyond what their culture imposed on them. I&#039;ve been thinking a lot about how much industrialisation has screwed up society and the way we relate in communities yet there are so many ways it is an improvement on what was before: were (middle class) girls able to access things like Treasure Island before the printing press and before the establishment of the education system?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>T: Yeah but I can&#8217;t believe how many people haven&#8217;t read Neuromancer.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s really interesting: the fact that the books were written for and about boys didn&#8217;t stop girls from reading and imagining themselves doing fantastic things beyond what their culture imposed on them. I&#8217;ve been thinking a lot about how much industrialisation has screwed up society and the way we relate in communities yet there are so many ways it is an improvement on what was before: were (middle class) girls able to access things like Treasure Island before the printing press and before the establishment of the education system?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Treasure Island by Catriona</title>
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		<dc:creator>Catriona</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 00:30:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ha! I&#039;ve remembered that man&#039;s name. I&#039;m not sure you want to follow up on a survey of late nineteenth-century working-class reading practices, but I&#039;m sticking the reference in here anyway, to make up for my fuzziness in the last comment:

Salmon, Edward. &quot;What the Working Classes Read.&quot; Nineteenth Century 20 (1886): 108-17.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha! I&#8217;ve remembered that man&#8217;s name. I&#8217;m not sure you want to follow up on a survey of late nineteenth-century working-class reading practices, but I&#8217;m sticking the reference in here anyway, to make up for my fuzziness in the last comment:</p>
<p>Salmon, Edward. &#8220;What the Working Classes Read.&#8221; Nineteenth Century 20 (1886): 108-17.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Treasure Island by T</title>
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		<dc:creator>T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 11:04:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>can&#039;t believe you only now have read it!</description>
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		<title>Comment on Treasure Island by Catriona</title>
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		<dc:creator>Catriona</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 21:54:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Absence of women is absolutely typical of these rollicking adventure stories. Even when they include women--as with King Soloman&#039;s Mines--they still seem to have an absence of women. Much of it has to do with genre: Treasure Island was originally serialised in Young Folk, 1881-1882, and even children&#039;s periodicals aimed for a wide range of material, to attract as many readers as possible.

Interestingly, though, the absence of women doesn&#039;t seemed to have mattered to readers in the slightest. Late Victorian surveys of school-age reading by a man whose name I&#039;m sure I&#039;ll remember in a minute showed that girls were far more likely to read Treasure Island or King Solomon&#039;s Mines than they were to read the highly moral, good-girl-wins-through, domestic stories actually written for them (like Charlotte Yonge&#039;s The Heir of Redclyffe).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absence of women is absolutely typical of these rollicking adventure stories. Even when they include women&#8212;as with King Soloman&#8217;s Mines&#8212;they still seem to have an absence of women. Much of it has to do with genre: Treasure Island was originally serialised in Young Folk, 1881-1882, and even children&#8217;s periodicals aimed for a wide range of material, to attract as many readers as possible.</p>
<p>Interestingly, though, the absence of women doesn&#8217;t seemed to have mattered to readers in the slightest. Late Victorian surveys of school-age reading by a man whose name I&#8217;m sure I&#8217;ll remember in a minute showed that girls were far more likely to read Treasure Island or King Solomon&#8217;s Mines than they were to read the highly moral, good-girl-wins-through, domestic stories actually written for them (like Charlotte Yonge&#8217;s The Heir of Redclyffe).</p>
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		<title>Comment on Inspirational PhD Stories by Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 06:07:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I&#039;ll keep you up to date with my progress.  Thanks for the comments. At the moment, I&#039;m waiting for CSU to open their intake for session 2.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I&#8217;ll keep you up to date with my progress.  Thanks for the comments. At the moment, I&#8217;m waiting for <span class="caps">CSU</span> to open their intake for session 2.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Inspirational PhD Stories by Lisa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 03:04:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Teaching can be daunting at first. I found that being somewhat older helped. Being well-prepared (but not overly so) for each lesson also helped. I think I also became a better teacher when I completely abandoned any pretence at avoiding embarrassment and trying to seem cool. That helped me to be much more physical and expressive in my teaching style and experimental in classroom activities. It also helps to just be yourself. You can try to &#039;transmit&#039; knowledge, or you can try to engage with your students&#039; thinking and where they are coming from on a journey of learning and discovery together. The first of these, I imagine, is very unfulfilling. The second in incredibly rewarding, even when classes don&#039;t always go as planned and some students get a bee in their bonnet and give you bad teaching evaluations (it happens!).

If you think about it in terms of life-long learning instead of a course of study, then stop-start is not so problematic. Some people abandon their theses when they feel that they have got from the experience what they needed - which wasn&#039;t the bit of paper. As someone who took a very long time to complete my thesis, I really believe the final work was the better for it, and I know that I&#039;m not alone here. 

If you&#039;re considering an academic career, it will almost never be worth the sacrifice if you think in purely financial terms. Not when you&#039;re a late starter like I was. But there are other benefits. It is extremely difficult  coping with study and young children. But if you work it right and are willing to put in some late nights and weekends, the time flexibility means that you can often be there for your kids at times you might not be able to with a fixed 9 to 5 job. Also, don&#039;t underestimate the value to kids of growing up in a home where learning is truly valued and ideas are freely and openly debated. Of course you can provide that atmosphere without embarking on a PhD, but if you do go down that path, sometimes it can just flow naturally without having to make a conscious effort. I have to admit, though, that this last aspect was certainly helped by having two of us studying at the same time.

Sounding like a wanker now, so I&#039;d better shut up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Teaching can be daunting at first. I found that being somewhat older helped. Being well-prepared (but not overly so) for each lesson also helped. I think I also became a better teacher when I completely abandoned any pretence at avoiding embarrassment and trying to seem cool. That helped me to be much more physical and expressive in my teaching style and experimental in classroom activities. It also helps to just be yourself. You can try to &#8216;transmit&#8217; knowledge, or you can try to engage with your students&#8217; thinking and where they are coming from on a journey of learning and discovery together. The first of these, I imagine, is very unfulfilling. The second in incredibly rewarding, even when classes don&#8217;t always go as planned and some students get a bee in their bonnet and give you bad teaching evaluations (it happens!).</p>
<p>If you think about it in terms of life-long learning instead of a course of study, then stop-start is not so problematic. Some people abandon their theses when they feel that they have got from the experience what they needed &#8211; which wasn&#8217;t the bit of paper. As someone who took a very long time to complete my thesis, I really believe the final work was the better for it, and I know that I&#8217;m not alone here.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re considering an academic career, it will almost never be worth the sacrifice if you think in purely financial terms. Not when you&#8217;re a late starter like I was. But there are other benefits. It is extremely difficult  coping with study and young children. But if you work it right and are willing to put in some late nights and weekends, the time flexibility means that you can often be there for your kids at times you might not be able to with a fixed 9 to 5 job. Also, don&#8217;t underestimate the value to kids of growing up in a home where learning is truly valued and ideas are freely and openly debated. Of course you can provide that atmosphere without embarking on a PhD, but if you do go down that path, sometimes it can just flow naturally without having to make a conscious effort. I have to admit, though, that this last aspect was certainly helped by having two of us studying at the same time.</p>
<p>Sounding like a wanker now, so I&#8217;d better shut up.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Inspirational PhD Stories by John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 01:46:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For my part, I kinda just fell into my PhD. I loved uni (boring mature-age swot) and found myself in a position, financially, to do Honours, which just prolonged the fun. Against all expectations I won a scholarship which enabled me to keep doing what I was loving.

As Lisa and Catriona have said, there were periods of great stress and poverty, but I&#039;ve always found the rewards have made that worth it. Discovering things about the world and myself, and how I understand it. And passing on those things through teaching is an absolute privilege.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For my part, I kinda just fell into my PhD. I loved uni (boring mature-age swot) and found myself in a position, financially, to do Honours, which just prolonged the fun. Against all expectations I won a scholarship which enabled me to keep doing what I was loving.</p>
<p>As Lisa and Catriona have said, there were periods of great stress and poverty, but I&#8217;ve always found the rewards have made that worth it. Discovering things about the world and myself, and how I understand it. And passing on those things through teaching is an absolute privilege.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Inspirational PhD Stories by Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 00:47:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I realise that in the podcast, Dr Brown (or does he mind being called Courtney when blogging?) was selling the story to his freshman students to try and light a fire in them but even though his account is biased for the sake of persuasion, there must be something that makes people live in poverty and put up with the circus show of university administration. Was it just a process of following one step after another or was there a specific inspirational person or purpose that led you into it and kept you going?

I relate to Lisa&#039;s statements about a passion for learning and curiosity, for me that goes right back to childhood and I&#039;ve always been committed to life-long learning. I like the idea of teaching but find it a bit daunting to think about as well. 

Some friends have expressed exasperation at my start-stop history of study, pointing out that I would have several degrees by now if I&#039;d just stuck with something but the reason I drop out of things is that I get to a point where I feel I&#039;m just being self-indulgent, I question the money and time I&#039;m spending and the sacrifices my family make when there is no concrete specific pay-off at the end of it.

(Also Felicity wants to add: hbvvawsm                   dsd, which translates as _Dad please get off the computer and play with me_)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I realise that in the podcast, Dr Brown (or does he mind being called Courtney when blogging?) was selling the story to his freshman students to try and light a fire in them but even though his account is biased for the sake of persuasion, there must be something that makes people live in poverty and put up with the circus show of university administration. Was it just a process of following one step after another or was there a specific inspirational person or purpose that led you into it and kept you going?</p>
<p>I relate to Lisa&#8217;s statements about a passion for learning and curiosity, for me that goes right back to childhood and I&#8217;ve always been committed to life-long learning. I like the idea of teaching but find it a bit daunting to think about as well.</p>
<p>Some friends have expressed exasperation at my start-stop history of study, pointing out that I would have several degrees by now if I&#8217;d just stuck with something but the reason I drop out of things is that I get to a point where I feel I&#8217;m just being self-indulgent, I question the money and time I&#8217;m spending and the sacrifices my family make when there is no concrete specific pay-off at the end of it.</p>
<p>(Also Felicity wants to add: hbvvawsm                   dsd, which translates as <em>Dad please get off the computer and play with me</em>)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Inspirational PhD Stories by Catriona</title>
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		<dc:creator>Catriona</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 23:40:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m rather with Lisa on this one, Matt: it really does sound like a golden age. There&#039;s blessedly little of the ivory tower about academia these days. And most of your &quot;sitting and thinking&quot; time takes place in between domestic chores of an evening or weekend, rather than during the workday.

I can wholeheartedly try and talk you into a Ph.D. as a single, fixed experience. I loved every minute of my Ph.D. though my Masters is something I don&#039;t care to think about. The Ph.D. is a unique experience, but you will be living on the poverty line while you do it--in fact, this year, I believe candidates on scholarship are actually living below the poverty line. 

Provided you can live on scholarship (i.e. without casual teaching), then to some degree you will have time to sit and think (and write). Full-time academic work or sessional academia? Much less so. And every Ph.D. candidate I&#039;ve ever known has required casual work--as Lisa says, they pay you for only a fraction of the hours you work, so you need to keep that in mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m rather with Lisa on this one, Matt: it really does sound like a golden age. There&#8217;s blessedly little of the ivory tower about academia these days. And most of your &#8220;sitting and thinking&#8221; time takes place in between domestic chores of an evening or weekend, rather than during the workday.</p>
<p>I can wholeheartedly try and talk you into a Ph.D. as a single, fixed experience. I loved every minute of my Ph.D. though my Masters is something I don&#8217;t care to think about. The Ph.D. is a unique experience, but you will be living on the poverty line while you do it&#8212;in fact, this year, I believe candidates on scholarship are actually living below the poverty line.</p>
<p>Provided you can live on scholarship (i.e. without casual teaching), then to some degree you will have time to sit and think (and write). Full-time academic work or sessional academia? Much less so. And every Ph.D. candidate I&#8217;ve ever known has required casual work&#8212;as Lisa says, they pay you for only a fraction of the hours you work, so you need to keep that in mind.</p>
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